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Tuesday, 18 November 2008
BU Council
I spent 3 days there and would have blogged direct from there except I didn't take my charger so had to be content with playing with my new phone. One day I'll remember things....
Sometimes, as I'm sat in those series of meetings, it seems to me that council is really important but that those there are the only ones who know it and boy do they know it.
The agenda was lousy but this for me then served to point out the worth of the agenda committee (a group which previously just baffled me). We are willing to do business but it needs putting before us in the first place.
The issue of civil partnerships came up. I was incensed by a document which declared that any minister who enters into such a partnership will be asked to resign as an accredited minister. It is outrageous on any level that I can understand but there it was. I was very grateful for a question which came before mine and which opened the issue for some discussion well and with sensitivity. My feel after the meeting was that there was far more support in the room than I suspected.
It still astounds me that the ministry exec decided to exclude someone one the basis of their sexuality without any wider or formal conversation with it's members. I am astounded of how we stroll breezily into the category of being homophobic without any expressed difficulty or voiced worry.
The area that really stirred up energy and feeling was that of roles and tasks. A real highlight for me was the point at which a woman stood up and made a detrimental reference to the colour of paper the report was written on. I'm still not sure what I can make of all that. The roles and tasks group set out to define roles and tasks. They were asked to do this by the council body and then they were mightily stood on for doing so. It was a low point.
Still, next March may be better.
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Does "asked to resign" mean given a chance to do it without hassle otherwise there'll be a nasty disciplinary process, or just asked to do it but no formal power if the minister should refuse?
Posted by: tim f | Tuesday, 18 November 2008
If there is a refusal to resign then the person involved would just be removed from accredited ministry for conduct unbecoming.
Posted by: Kez | Wednesday, 19 November 2008
ugh. I'm not sure if that's even technically legal. I know churches have (wrongly, in my view) been given opt-outs on aspects of legislation on discrimination in provision of services, but this is a matter of employers discriminating on grounds of sexuality.
I suppose the biggest opportunity for change will come when there is a test case, through a significant mobilisation of support for that person.
Posted by: tim f | Wednesday, 19 November 2008
Sadly this was the test case. Although, there is still room for case by case decisions it is not the case that this is now how it always has to be, a rule was not made which is what I first understood was happening.
The problem and pleasure of ministry is that the ministers themselves are not employees of the church. That means we're in a weird half way house. It also means that we have freedom that wouldn't be there if we were employees. It does mean though that the BU are well within their capacity to do this. It seems the bigger issue of God's justice has been shelved.
Posted by: Kez | Thursday, 20 November 2008
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